Devotion is Bullshit

[Arawizard]

Recently 2 members have been kicked by the lack of trust, having contacts with hackers and wearing duped equips. Unfortunately the leaders of Devotions are far from legit themselves even better they use hacks bots and glitches. The day Endlessly/Emre got banned was a day the maple community got shocked, a so called legit player got banned for no reason. I can tell you the permanent ban was reasonable. A few days later Ruthlessness got created within the time of one week he was the best and most funded Kaiser there was. I Arawizard, Emre Ruthlessness and a third person were aware of how to abuse the free NX by mopay by December (yes the one that got leaked in summer). Also we have been duping equipment’s scrolls and a lot of use items with the public dupe. Combined those and you can easily get the godliest gear there is in game.


As you can understand the leaders of themselves aren’t legit. Having 2 people named I can tell you the rest of the leaders aren’t legit as well; Roshh for example was Emre’s guy to get free nx. Allen is the only leader beside from the legendary coin bot I have never heard about hacking or duping. But seeing Emre and I were the pillars in funding the rest of Devotion no one really is legit.

Recently there has been a switch in the chain of command of Devotion were I lost my leadership position by letting myself go down as a theater of Devotion. In the hope of keeping Devotion alive, however I told the leaders everything me and Emre have been doing in the past of time they said they would do something about it. However Emre still remained as a leader of Devotion, and being able to kick 2 members of Devotion by the reason, quote; “It is upsetting that today we have lost two members of Devotion. As you may have already noticed, both Maiken and Lasse are no longer a part of our guild. This is due not just one issue, but multiple. Miscommunication, mistrust, associations with hackers and the wrong people, as well as possession of duped and hacked gear all play a role in this outcome. After long and detailed research, confronting both members multiple times, we've collectively come to the conclusion that they have the wrong mentality of what we would expect from Devotion. “


Even after everything i have said to the leaders Emre and Roshh are still running Devotion giving me even more reason to believe that every leader of Devotion was involved in the big lies we were leading the guild with.


I don’t really care allot about maple anymore but I think it’s time for the truth to come out. I have no idea how the guild is going to react to this. But I think what happened to Maiken and Lasse is unfair seeing that the leaders are not legit themselves.

PROOF.







[12/6/2012 7:47:39 PM] Emre Yücel: Yo
[12/6/2012 7:47:48 PM] Emre Yücel: Kan je me helpen Jens?
[12/6/2012 9:44:51 PM] Jens: Sure
[12/6/2012 9:44:53 PM] Jens: met wat?
[12/6/2012 9:45:00 PM] Jens: was fitnessen
[12/6/2012 9:45:15 PM] Emre Yücel: Heb misschien iets nodig ;p, maar dat komt wel
[12/6/2012 9:45:19 PM] Emre Yücel: Ik vraag wel als ik het nodig heb
[12/6/2012 9:45:19 PM] Emre Yücel: ;
[12/6/2012 9:45:22 PM] Jens: haha
[12/6/2012 9:45:23 PM] Jens: wat dan
[12/6/2012 9:45:28 PM] Jens: ga je je hero dupen
[12/6/2012 9:45:28 PM] Jens: ;)
[12/6/2012 9:45:35 PM] Jens: Kan easy die roll back
[12/6/2012 9:45:38 PM] Jens: faalson
[12/6/2012 9:45:50 PM] Emre Yücel: Ja, Maple is echt waardeloos
[12/6/2012 9:46:03 PM] Jens: gaan vast niet rollbacken
[12/6/2012 9:46:11 PM] Emre Yücel: Sowieso niet f3
[12/6/2012 9:46:35 PM] Jens: kan je eigenlijk net zo goed zelf dupen die economie gaat toch naar de tyfus
[12/6/2012 9:46:43 PM] Jens: ik weet het de laatste tijd niet meer met nexon...
[12/6/2012 9:47:28 PM] Emre Yücel: Naya is altijd zo geweest
[12/6/2012 9:51:15 PM] Emre Yücel: Nu je het zegt
[12/6/2012 9:51:18 PM] Emre Yücel: Wat heb ik te verliezen
[12/6/2012 9:54:45 PM] Jens: ikr
[12/6/2012 9:54:46 PM] Jens:
[12/6/2012 9:54:49 PM] Jens: Ik wil well helpen
[12/6/2012 9:54:50 PM] Jens: op me mules
[12/6/2012 9:55:11 PM] Emre Yücel: Laat me maar even tsten
[12/6/2012 9:55:13 PM] Jens: staken we 100 duizend mules vol
[12/6/2012 9:55:16 PM] Jens: verkopen we het daarna
[12/6/2012 9:55:21 PM] Jens: Verdienen we euros
[12/6/2012 9:55:22 PM] Emre Yücel: Naya, ik dacht eraan
[12/6/2012 9:55:23 PM] Jens: En kappen we
[12/6/2012 9:55:25 PM] Emre Yücel: Ik prop idd wat mules vol
[12/6/2012 9:55:28 PM] Emre Yücel: Maak een nice warrior setje
[12/6/2012 9:55:33 PM] Emre Yücel: And we're done ;
[12/6/2012 9:55:34 PM] Jens: kan ook ja
[12/6/2012 9:55:35 PM] Jens: :P
[12/6/2012 9:55:42 PM] Emre Yücel: Ik probeer eerst
[12/6/2012 9:55:46 PM] Emre Yücel: Even stacks of 100 te dupen
[12/6/2012 9:55:49 PM] Emre Yücel: Daarna kan je helpen
[12/6/2012 9:55:50 PM] Emre Yücel: ;
[12/6/2012 9:55:58 PM] Emre Yücel: Dan gaat het lekker snel
[12/6/2012 9:56:02 PM] Emre Yücel: Dupe ik ze, kom jij op een mule
[12/6/2012 9:57:02 PM] Emre Yücel: Haha, is jouw Bd3 locked?
[12/6/2012 9:58:41 PM] Emre Yücel: Hahaha
[12/6/2012 9:58:45 PM] Emre Yücel: Hij werkt xD
[12/6/2012 9:59:40 PM] Jens: ja
[12/6/2012 9:59:43 PM] Jens: Locked
[12/6/2012 9:59:44 PM] Jens:
[12/6/2012 9:59:51 PM] Emre Yücel: Alweer f3?
[12/6/2012 9:59:52 PM] Emre Yücel: Dang
[12/6/2012 9:59:56 PM] Emre Yücel: Je heart ook?
[12/6/2012 10:00:02 PM] Jens: uhu -_-
[12/6/2012 10:00:06 PM] Emre Yücel: Achja
[12/6/2012 10:00:10 PM] Emre Yücel: Dan doe ik wel een warrior set
[12/6/2012 10:00:11 PM] Emre Yücel: xD
[12/6/2012 10:00:16 PM] Jens: xD
[12/6/2012 10:00:23 PM] Jens: Ik help je zo wel mee met dupen laat maar weten
[12/6/2012 10:00:25 PM] Jens: ^^
[12/6/2012 10:00:30 PM] Jens: tyfus nexon
[12/6/2012 10:00:30 PM] Emre Yücel: Oki
[12/6/2012 10:00:31 PM] Jens:
[12/6/2012 10:00:40 PM] Jens: Had nooit verwacht dat ik ook nog zou dupen
[12/6/2012 10:00:51 PM] Emre Yücel: Doen we elke mule 100x WS, 100x Mirc chaos, 100x chaos, 100x inno, 100x hammer, en nog een paar dingen
[12/6/2012 10:01:00 PM] Emre Yücel: Naya ik weet
[12/6/2012 10:01:04 PM] Emre Yücel: dat jij er geen misbruik van maakt
[12/6/2012 10:01:13 PM] Emre Yücel: Dit is ook meer omdat het mij ttoch geen fck meer kan schelen
[12/6/2012 10:01:47 PM] Jens: true.
[12/6/2012 10:01:49 PM] Jens: 100% true
[12/6/2012 10:02:02 PM] Jens: We stacken alles gewoon voll tot de max
[12/6/2012 10:02:14 PM] Jens: En dan zien we het wel
[12/6/2012 10:02:24 PM] Emre Yücel: yUP
[12/6/2012 10:03:13 PM] Jens: ik hoop nog steeds dat ze een roll back doen.
[12/6/2012 10:03:19 PM] Jens: terug tot woensdag
[12/6/2012 10:03:31 PM] Emre Yücel: Yea same
[12/6/2012 10:03:36 PM] Emre Yücel: Met pendant voor iedereen
[12/6/2012 10:03:56 PM] Emre Yücel: Naya wat ik eigenlijk hoop[
[12/6/2012 10:04:10 PM] Emre Yücel: Is dat ze iedereen zijn account per ongeluk permanent verwijderen
[12/6/2012 10:04:19 PM] Emre Yücel: f3
[12/6/2012 10:04:21 PM] Emre Yücel: Nah
[12/6/2012 10:04:21 PM] Jens:
[12/6/2012 10:04:22 PM] Jens: hahaha
[12/6/2012 10:04:26 PM] Jens: zou het?
[12/6/2012 10:04:30 PM] Jens: dan stop ik meteen
[12/6/2012 10:04:30 PM] Jens: xD
[12/6/2012 10:04:33 PM] Emre Yücel: xD
[12/6/2012 10:04:35 PM] Emre Yücel: nee kan niet ;p
[12/6/2012 10:05:04 PM] Jens: yay kan niks meer droppen op me account gvd
[12/6/2012 10:05:08 PM] Emre Yücel: HAHAH
[12/6/2012 10:05:12 PM] Emre Yücel: Nee wacht
[12/6/2012 10:05:19 PM] Emre Yücel: Dat ken je die Empress items zeker niet kwijt?
[12/6/2012 10:05:27 PM] Jens: Denk het niet
[12/6/2012 10:05:29 PM] Jens: die gloves
[12/6/2012 10:05:30 PM] Jens: en helm
[12/6/2012 10:05:31 PM] Jens: xD
[12/6/2012 10:05:34 PM] Emre Yücel: Fml ..
[12/6/2012 10:05:39 PM] Jens: Die gloves heb ik perongeluk al 2x geduped
[12/6/2012 10:05:40 PM] Jens:
[12/6/2012 10:05:42 PM] Jens: Maakte een store
[12/6/2012 10:05:47 PM] Jens: Opeens log ik in heb ik alles weer
[12/6/2012 10:05:49 PM] Emre Yücel: Haha xD
[12/6/2012 10:05:57 PM] Jens: Dit was serieus onbewust
[12/6/2012 10:06:13 PM] Jens: Dus unique
[12/6/2012 10:06:18 PM] Jens: gloves heb je zowiezo
[12/6/2012 10:06:21 PM] Jens: 6% best decent
[12/6/2012 10:06:27 PM] Jens: Met die nx trike
[12/6/2012 10:06:31 PM] Jens: xD
[12/6/2012 10:06:34 PM] Emre Yücel: Moet beterrr
[12/6/2012 10:06:39 PM] Emre Yücel: 20 att b oots and helm pls
[12/6/2012 10:06:46 PM] Jens: haha
[12/6/2012 10:06:47 PM] Jens: :P
[12/6/2012 10:06:56 PM] Jens: Lukt je wel met die nieuwe chaos scrolls
[12/6/2012 10:07:16 PM] Emre Yücel: Hmm
[12/6/2012 10:07:21 PM] Emre Yücel: Soms duped die niet helemaal goed
[12/6/2012 10:07:27 PM] Jens: Klopt hoorde ik
[12/6/2012 10:07:33 PM] Jens: je moet ook even wachten voorj e weer inlogd
[12/6/2012 10:07:39 PM] Emre Yücel: Is een beetje random
[12/6/2012 10:07:40 PM] Jens: en hoorde dat je eerst cs in moet
[12/6/2012 10:07:44 PM] Jens: voordat je de items over trade
[12/6/2012 10:07:53 PM] Emre Yücel: Yea yae, ik heb alles al aan het testen dw f3
[12/6/2012 10:07:58 PM] Jens: haha
[12/6/2012 10:07:58 PM] Jens: oke
[12/6/2012 10:07:59 PM] Jens: <3
[12/6/2012 10:08:01 PM] Emre Yücel: Raakte net wel ineens
[12/6/2012 10:08:02 PM] Jens: Heb je zoveel ws dan?
[12/6/2012 10:08:05 PM] Emre Yücel: helft van de scrolls weg
[12/6/2012 10:08:07 PM] Emre Yücel: 30
[12/6/2012 10:08:10 PM] Jens: Lol lekker
[12/6/2012 10:08:12 PM] Emre Yücel: Begon met 1
[12/6/2012 10:08:13 PM] Jens: hoeveel begon je me?
[12/6/2012 10:08:15 PM] Jens: hahahahahahaha
[12/6/2012 10:08:19 PM] Emre Yücel: Wacht maar
[12/6/2012 10:08:24 PM] Emre Yücel: Als ik bij de 100 stacks kom
[12/6/2012 10:08:27 PM] Emre Yücel: Dan hebben we elke 5 minuten
[12/6/2012 10:08:29 PM] Emre Yücel: 100 scrolls
[12/6/2012 10:08:30 PM] Jens: dan gaan we dodelijk
[12/6/2012 10:08:31 PM] Emre Yücel: Van elke
[12/6/2012 10:08:49 PM] Jens: als we zoon 10000 ws hebben
[12/6/2012 10:08:52 PM] Jens: zijn we done
[12/6/2012 10:08:53 PM] Jens:
[12/6/2012 10:08:56 PM] Emre Yücel: xD
[12/6/2012 10:09:00 PM] Emre Yücel: Dooe maar rustig
[12/6/2012 10:09:02 PM] Jens: Kunnen we alles perfect scrollen
[12/6/2012 10:09:04 PM] Jens: xD
[12/6/2012 10:09:05 PM] Emre Yücel: En niet meer dan
[12/6/2012 10:09:07 PM] Emre Yücel: 100 per account
[12/6/2012 10:09:09 PM] Jens: is goed
[12/6/2012 10:09:10 PM] Emre Yücel: 100 ea scroll
[12/6/2012 10:14:40 PM] Emre Yücel: Juist
[12/6/2012 10:14:44 PM] Emre Yücel: Heb em nu wel lekker
[12/6/2012 10:17:45 PM] Jens: Nice
[12/6/2012 10:17:50 PM] Jens: Zal ik mules loggen?
[12/6/2012 10:18:43 PM] Emre Yücel: Nog niet
[12/6/2012 10:18:51 PM] Emre Yücel: Dat 100x stacken gaat nog even duren
[12/6/2012 10:19:23 PM] Emre Yücel: Als je wilt
[12/6/2012 10:19:27 PM] Emre Yücel: Probeer even te bedenken
[12/6/2012 10:19:32 PM] Emre Yücel: Of je nog iets van Empress kan regelen
[12/6/2012 10:22:14 PM] Jens: uhm
[12/6/2012 10:22:25 PM] Jens: Je kan iets uit me eigen shop kopen
[12/6/2012 10:22:29 PM] Jens: als je messos hebt?
[12/6/2012 10:24:13 PM] Jens: JOEKEL
[12/6/2012 10:25:46 PM] *** Gebeld naar Emre, geen antwoord. ***
[12/6/2012 10:25:56 PM] Jens: Neem je phone is op
[12/6/2012 10:25:56 PM] Jens: xD
[12/6/2012 10:26:07 PM] Emre Yücel: Yo
[12/6/2012 10:26:12 PM] *** Gebeld naar Emre, geen antwoord. ***
[12/6/2012 10:26:14 PM] *** Gesprek van Emre Yücel ***[/img]

[DuhKylan]

What the hell ? Is this the biggest bullying I've ever seen or are you guys just trying hard to bring us down ?
I don't know if this is true. After all the speech about hacked gears and shit, I really don't think Emre and Rosh did this.. Also, it would be nice to translate everything as not everyone is Dutch.

[RoshFTW]

Lasse left after I confronted him, angry with me when I poked him about his association with Julio, and when I strongly disagreed about his joke of Joel. Maiken was asked to leave the guild by Emre, mostly on the part of not being open and honest all the way up to the the very last point, something you should be all too familiar about Jens.

This "chain of command" you talk about changed completely after you gave Kevin and Bas your complete chat logs, which got forwarded to Allen and myself. At that time, Allen ran the guild, whilst Joel, Emre and I would be leaders alongside with him. After revoking our admin rights to this website (as you are the owner of this website, something we cannot change), it's obvious that you disagree with this decision.

The difference between Lasse, Maiken and you, compared to Emre, is that Emre was honest the second we confronted him about it, and hid nothing. He told us exactly what you two did, and I believe Allen dealt with the accounts you shared accordingly.

As to me using an Nx exploit, nice try. You've provided no proof, only written my name on MSPaint over something Emre said. My Nx transaction history has already been checked, I'm going to leave a snippet of my transaction logs here:



As to Allen botting, Rio was the one to ask Allen about this, where Allen rightfully proved him wrong. Rio asked you about it, where you automatically assumed that Allen botted. You're welcome to go back to Rio or Allen about that if you don't believe me.

You say you don't care about Maple much any more. If that truly was the case, why is it you stole from the guild and stirred up shit? Once again, it's going to be us who has to clear up and prove ourselves to everybody because of you. Gg bro.

[InExistence Joel]

What are you talking about? He just sent a picture of your transaction log which is from a time when the NX-exploit was ongoing.

And how do you even know the skype convo was from 06? oO I really can't tell..

[InExistence Joel]

The part with the "contact" might have been 05, or even way earlier. Doesn't really matter though. Rosh proved his innocence. And the accusation is completely false. He still has no reason to explain himself.

I think we're done here.

[MeIv]

While we are on it...
You should really consider asking yourself who of the 'higher' eMS community really is legit. It does not come by surprise AraWizard or Maiken being illegit. After all I have logged into Hireyasu myself to no-boom scroll exploit her dominator-pedant, but that aside...

Then there is Killian in Devotion(Exitzor, Duaihoe)who to everyone else appears to be just as legit as everyone else in Devotion. Well I would say think it over again. Spoiler (Click To Show):

Devotion now tends to kick multiple of their members on base of so called "mistrust" and being in possession of duped equipment together with various other reasons. The above screenshot should be oudious in Devotions eyes and end up him being removed aswell...

RoshFTW wrote:

The difference between Lasse, Maiken and you, compared to Emre, is that Emre was honest the second we confronted him about it, and hid nothing. He told us exactly what you two did, and I believe Allen dealt with the accounts you shared accordingly.

The above quote is shocking aswell as disgusting to hear from a guildleader as this. What Rosh basically is saying here is the reason only Lasse and Maiken got expelled (and not Emre) is because he "was honest the second he was confronted". I don't know how others conceive this but to me it sounds as if you can exploit or use exploited NX all you like as long as you are honest afterwards when being asked/interrogated.

I also feel forced to comment on the NX-exploit issue. Even if you, Rosh, would have shown all your charging logs, that would have proved nothing, but really nothing at all. Most if not all 'legits' who used this NX exploit were bright enough to consider either exploiting on or buying mules with exploited NX. Me saying this doesn't prove anything towards you being illegit but gives you an indication wasting your time trying to convince others you not having used the NX exploit in any way might aswell be hopeless.[/img]

[fallingout]

what i want to add to this is, rosh is clean and calling him an nx explioter is compleedly pointless.

he charges honderds of € worth of nx a month, and showed that in just one day he charged 65k.

why would some1 who is able to get free nx, spent so much money on it?

and i am very amused that suddently whole of devotion is called hackers and illegit, have you guys put your brains in your arse?

[RoshFTW]

If Jens lies, he has nothing to lose. He's lied in the past also, such as when he claimed he didn't steal the renegades badges from our guild bank.

When the mopay exploit was released on the nexon forums, the poster mentioned that it works throughout europe and mentioned euros if I recall correctly. With your logic, I guess anybody who's British and funded is automatically less trustable. There was also a nx exploit in Finland iirc, so I guess anyone who's funded and Finnish is less trustable too. Oh but wait, I believe was yet another nx exploit related to daopay, so I guess anybody with access to a phone is less trustable too. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

The way I see the situation is like this. Emre mentions a contact, where Jens writes down my name and points to the contact. I personally don't think this proves anything, but because so many people (including the nameless guests posting here) seem to think this is full on evidence, they completely jump the gun and believe him. Now if Jens actually had real evidence, such as me telling him "Heya Jens, just letting you know that I hack Nx" I could probably understand why everyone would think this.

It's obvious that people believe who they want to believe. Melvin's right, it's pointless for me to even attempt to defend myself.